Talk:Treaty of Portsmouth

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• 1. The documentation which accompanies the uploaded photograph identifies J J. Korostovetz as seated at the negotiating table with others who worked on the Treaty of Portsmouth in 1905. The image comes from the following:
  • Davis, Richard Harding, and Alfred Thayer Mahan. (1905). The Russo-Japanese war; a photographic and descriptive review of the great conflict in the Far East, gathered from the reports, records, cable despatches, photographs, etc., etc., of Collier's war correspondents New York: P. F. Collier & Son. OCLC: 21581015
• 2. A quick Google search reveals that Korostovetz was secretary to Sergei Witte in this period; and the account of the treaty negotiations which was based on Korostovetz' diary is considered a credible primary source:
  • Korostovetz, J.J. (1920). Pre-War Diplomacy The Russo-Japanese Problem. London: British Periodicals Limited.
• 3. A quick Google search of "Kokovtsov and Portsmouth" has not produced support that he was in the United States during the negotiations.

For these reasons, it would appear to be a mistake to replace Korostovetz (which is supported by a specific citation per WP:V) with Kokovtsov in this caption ... unless a credible source can be presented which contradicts the results of research which have been plainly cited here. --Tenmei (talk) 18:29, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Also, please note that the "Key to Reception"

"Key to Reception"

with minor spelling differences, supports that "M. Ivan Korostovitz" attended the reception captured in the photograph, as did others cited in the caption in question. Mike H (talk) 19:24, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Key to Reception: Japanese?

Perhaps there should be articles about these diplomats?

• 11 Baron Komura Jutarō (小村寿太郎, Jutarō Komura)
• 12 Mr. Takahira Kogorō 高平小五郎
• 13 Mr. Henry Willard Denison
• 14. Mr. Aimaro Sato --?
• a? Mr. Enjiroh Yamaza (山座円次郎, Enjiroh Yamaza)
• b? Mr. Mineichirō Adachi (安達 峰一郎, Adachi Mineichirō)
• c?. Col. Ichiro Tachibara (立花小一郎, Tachibara Ichiro) -- military attaché
• d?. Mr. Kentaro Ochiai (落合謙太郎, Ochiai Kenataro, 1870-1926), aka Kentaro Otchiai?
• e?* Comdr Isamu Takeshita (竹下勇, Takeshita Isamu) -- naval attaché
• d?. Mr. Kumataro Honda本多熊太郎
• e?. Mr. I Sato Megumi (佐藤 愛麿, I Sato Megumi, 1857-1934)
• f?* Mr. Konishi Kutaru?
• -- Kentaro Kaneko (金子堅太郎, Kaneko Kentarō)

This may be a step in a constructive direction? --Tenmei (talk) 15:18, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

• Diplomat, later period -- Naotake Sato (佐藤尚武, Sato Naotake, 1882-1971)?
• 小西孝太郎

Assessment Commentary

The article was assessed C-class for lack of sources. This is a pretty good article as is, but could definitely be a great article if the following concerns are addressed:

• Definitions. A description of what exactly is meant by "Roosevelt's back-channel communications" would be helpful, as in how were these "communicated" made, are they still practiced, what made them different or effective?
• More attention to the Russian aspect, concerning ratification and the treaty's effects on the domestic policy and political climate. How did it affect the czarist regime? The military?
• There is undue weight placed on the commemoration section, which should really be of minor importance. It can be trimmed, but I think it more important to bring the other sections up to a similar standard.

I trimmed the commemoration section. Chrisahn (talk) 21:43, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

• The bibliography is nice, but it needs in-line citations.

Good luck.Boneyard90 (talk) 13:53, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Denied by the system

I tried to change image available from Wikimedia on Portsmouth treaty but I was denied by the system. Can someone explain to me? Thank you

Reclerc (talk) 16:32, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

@Reclerc: The edit filter stopped you because one of its specific algorithms is designed to look out for new users who change images in articles linked at the time from the Main Page ... in the past we have had problems with people putting porn in them. It doesn't appear to me that you were trying to do anything wrong; if you make some more useful and productive edits it will probably let you do this in a day or two. To be really on the safe side, you might want to open up a discussion here and see if anyone would object. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel Case (talk • contribs) 19:56, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

@Daniel Case: Wow I never thought that there would be any user on this website who would done such thing. I thought I did something wrong about my edits, but thank you for the explanation sir. Reclerc (talk) 11:42, 6 September 2021 (UTC)