User talk:JoJan
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Hello JoJan, welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to join the community. Drop us a note at Wikipedia:New user log so we can meet you and help you get started. If you need editing help, visit Wikipedia:How to edit a page. For format questions, visit our manual of style. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Newcomers' Village pump. And of course, feel free to talk with me or ask questions on my talk page. Enjoy! --Αλεξ Σ 15:14, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – January 2022
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2021).
Interface administrator changes
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- Following consensus at the 2021 RfA review, the autopatrolled user right has been removed from the administrators user group; admins can grant themselves the autopatrolled permission if they wish to remain autopatrolled.
- Additionally, consensus for proposal 6C of the 2021 RfA review has led to the creation of an administrative action review process. The purpose of this process will be to review individual administrator actions and individual actions taken by users holding advanced permissions.
- Following the 2021 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Beeblebrox, Cabayi, Donald Albury, Enterprisey, Izno, Opabinia regalis, Worm That Turned, Wugapodes.
- The functionaries email list (functionaries-enlists.wikimedia.org) will no longer accept incoming emails apart from those sent by list members and WMF staff. Private concerns, apart from those requiring oversight, should be directly sent to the Arbitration Committee.
Happy New Year, JoJan!
[edit]JoJan,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
— Moops ⋠T⋡ 02:23, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
— Moops ⋠T⋡ 02:23, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
[edit]Hello JoJan,
- Backlog
The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
- 2022 Awards
Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)
New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js
to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js
Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.
Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.
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Administrators' newsletter – January 2023
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2022).
- Speedy deletion criterion A5 (transwikied articles) has been repealed following an unopposed proposal.
- Following the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Barkeep49, CaptainEek, GeneralNotability, Guerillero, L235, Moneytrees, Primefac, SilkTork.
- The 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review has concluded with many changes to the discretionary sanctions procedure including a change of the name to "contentious topics". The changes are being implemented over the coming month.
- The arbitration case Stephen has been closed.
- Voting for the Sound Logo has closed and the winner is expected to be announced February to April 2023.
- Tech tip: You can view information about IP addresses in a centralised location using bullseye which won the Newcomer award in the recent Coolest Tool Awards.
commons category is misplaced
[edit]your edit, commons category is misplaced. placement info Template:Commons_category#Location. thank u. <_> jindam, vani (talk) 16:02, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 54
[edit]The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 54, November – December 2022
- New collections:
- British Newspaper Archive
- Findmypast
- University of Michigan Press
- ACLS
- Duke University Press
- 1Lib1Ref 2023
- Spotlight: EDS Refine Results
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Disambiguation link notification for January 24
[edit]An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Caenogastropoda, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Subclass.
(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:10, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Frequent references
[edit]Hello, thanks for all your work on references. I see hundreds of articles about species often have the same references and some (most?) seem added by you so hopefully you can help me understand: would it be ok to convert them to {{cite journal}} usage? Sometimes the links break and it would be nice to automatically add links to archives, but that's hard if the citations aren't templated. For example doi:10.1111/zoj.12431 is currently broken (classic OUP) but the citation would be still usable if we had added an archive. doi:10.1093/mollus/eyu055 is cited on over 800 articles and is also available at https://hal.science/hal-02458202 . Nemo 21:38, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- OK, I wouldn't mind if this can be done automatically by a bot. JoJan (talk) 14:33, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – February 2023
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2023).
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- Following an RfC, the administrator policy now requires that prior written consent be gained from the Arbitration Committee to mark a block as only appealable to the committee.
- Following a community discussion, consensus has been found to impose the extended-confirmed restriction over the topic areas of Armenia and Azerbaijan and Kurds and Kurdistan.
- The Vector 2022 skin has become the default for desktop users of the English Wikipedia.
- The arbitration case Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 24 February 2023.
- In December, the contentious topics procedure was adopted which replaces the former discretionary sanctions system. The contentious topics procedure is now in effect following an initial implementation period. There is a detailed summary of the changes and administrator instructions for the new procedure. The arbitration clerk team are taking suggestions, concerns, and unresolved questions about this new system at their noticeboard.
- Voting in the 2023 Steward elections will begin on 05 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
- Voting in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey will begin on 10 February 2023 and end on 24 February 2023. You can submit, discuss and revise proposals until 6 February 2023.
- Tech tip: Syntax highlighting is available in both the 2011 and 2017 Wikitext editors. It can help make editing paragraphs with many references or complicated templates easier.
Administrators' newsletter – March 2023
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2023).
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- Following a request for comment, F10 (useless non-media files) has been deprecated.
- Following a request for comment, the Portal CSD criteria (P1 (portal subject to CSD as an article) and P2 (underpopulated portal)) have been deprecated.
- A request for comment is open to discuss making the closing instructions for the requested moves process a guideline.
- The results of the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey have been posted.
- Remedy 11 ("Request for Comment") of the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been rescinded.
- The proposed decision for the Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case is expected 7 March 2023.
- A case related to the Holocaust in Poland is expected to be opened soon.
- The 2023 appointees for the Ombuds commission are AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, JJMC89, MdsShakil, Minorax and Renvoy as regular members and Zabe as advisory members.
- Following the 2023 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Mykola7, Superpes15, and Xaosflux.
- The Terms of Use update cycle has started, which includes a
[p]roposal for better addressing undisclosed paid editing
. Feedback is being accepted until 24 April 2023.
File:Ophrys-araneola1.jpg listed for discussion
[edit]A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Ophrys-araneola1.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:13, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
OVERLINKING
[edit]Hi, please ensure that "United States" and other common words and terms are not linked in articles you edit. Tony (talk) 23:53, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 55
[edit]The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 55, January – February 2023
- New bundle partners:
- Newspapers.com
- Fold3
- 1Lib1Ref January report
- Spotlight: EDS SmartText Searching
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --12:45, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Help! Potential Edit War
[edit]Hiya! Sorry to bother you but I saw you in the recently active admins list and I thought I would see if you could help me with a burgeoning dispute (on a minor page, all things considered). User:TheWikiholic has twice reverted my edits on Forbes list of the world's highest-paid dead celebrities. There is a small group of editors on that page that have continuously sought to list Michael Jackson's cause of death as homicide, which I argue contradicts the page on his death. I tagged the article for contradiction, but the user in question reverted the tag without engaging with me on the talk page. I know this is petty all things considered, but I thought it would give it a shot
Thanks! ~~RedPandaWatcher RedPandaWatcher (talk) 13:40, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't see how I can intervene in this dispute. The article Death of Michael Jackson states that the cause of his death was homocide and that his physician was convicted of involuntary manslaughter. JoJan (talk) 13:57, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick response!
- Sorry for not being more clear, but the main issue with the argument is that homicide is not a cause of death, it is a manner of death (see here for an explanation of the distinction). That's the reason it is listed as what it is on the page I referenced. RedPandaWatcher (talk) 14:17, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Vexillum etremoides: Attribution is required
[edit]In the future, please add attribution when copying from public domain sources: simply add the template {{PD-notice}}
after your citation. I have done so for the above article. Please do this in the future so that our readers will be aware that you copied the prose rather than wrote it yourself, and that it's okay to copy verbatim. Thanks, — Diannaa (talk) 15:31, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2023
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2023).
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- A community RfC is open to discuss whether reports primarily involving gender-related disputes or controversies should be referred to the Arbitration enforcement noticeboard.
- Some older web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis starting this week. This mainly affects users of Internet Explorer 11. (T178356)
- The rollback of Vector 2022 RfC has found no consensus to rollback to Vector legacy, but has found rough consensus to disable "limited width" mode by default.
- A link to the user's Special:CentralAuth page will now appear in the subtitle links shown on Special:Contributions. This was voted #17 in the Community Wishlist Survey 2023.
- The Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case has been closed.
- A case about World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been opened, with the first evidence phase closing 6 April 2023.
Merger discussion for Amphimenia
[edit]An article that you have been involved in editing—Amphimenia —has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. UtherSRG (talk) 20:17, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive
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cloudfront URL
[edit]Hi, I made some changes to a couple articles example Special:Diff/1151195681/1151210845. This is because cloudfront URLs are hosted at AWS and expire within a few hours see WP:AWSURL. Also I converted it to a {{cite journal}}
. Feel free to copy to other articles. Thanks! -- GreenC 16:02, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2023
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2023).
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- A request for comment about removing administrative privileges in specified situations is open for feedback.
- Progress has started on the Page Triage improvement project. This is to address the concerns raised by the community in their 2022 WMF letter that requested improvements be made to the tool.
- The proposed decision in the World War II and the history of Jews in Poland case is expected 11 May 2023.
- The Wikimedia Foundation annual plan 2023-2024 draft is open for comment and input through May 19. The final plan will be published in July 2023.
Books & Bytes – Issue 56
[edit]The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 56, March – April 2023
- New partner:
- Perlego
- Library access tips and tricks
- Spotlight: EveryBookItsReader
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --10:03, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2023
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2023).
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- Following an RfC, editors indefinitely site-banned by community consensus will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
- As a part of the Wikimedia Foundation's IP Masking project, a new policy has been created that governs the access to temporary account IP addresses. An associated FAQ has been created and individual communities can increase the requirements to view temporary account IP addresses.
- Bot operators and tool maintainers should schedule time in the coming months to test and update their tools for the effects of IP masking. IP masking will not be deployed to any content wiki until at least October 2023 and is unlikely to be deployed to the English Wikipedia until some time in 2024.
- The arbitration case World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.
- Following a community referendum, the arbitration policy has been modified to remove the ability for users to appeal remedies to Jimbo Wales.
Possible copyright violation
[edit]Hi @JoJan Your edit at Vitrea subrimata got picked up as a possible copyright violation on CopyPatrol [2]. This is the comparison with the source. Since you added the source as a reference I assume this is a case of close paraphrasing. It might be better to add it as a quote instead. Nobody (talk) 08:35, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- The database AnimalBase "provides copyright-free open access to zoological works, and provides manually verified lists of names of zoological genera and species as a free resource for the public. The public use of AnimalBase data is not restricted or conditioned. Those who contribute voluntarily data or pictures to AnimalBase do this under the understanding of contributing to a free public resource. age authors). If you download content from AnimalBase please make sure that you attribute the source (in cases of downloaded books, the library, and in cases of downloaded pictures, the image authors). The legal term for this is CC BY-SA." [1]
Since I have made that deep link to AnimalBase, I can't see any infringement on copyright. Furthermore, the description of species is very specific. Any alteration, and you may be describing another species. JoJan (talk) 12:51, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hi JoJan, thanks for clarifying the copyright status of the source, I missed it when I checked the website earlier. I've marked the report as a false positive. Sorry for the trouble Nobody (talk) 13:00, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
References
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Xenuroturris subconcavus
[edit]A tag has been placed on Category:Xenuroturris subconcavus indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz Read! Talk! 05:23, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
- I've deleted this unnecessary category. JoJan (talk) 12:32, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Vexillum pisolinum
[edit]A tag has been placed on Category:Vexillum pisolinum indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz Read! Talk! 05:25, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
- I've deleted this unnecessary category. JoJan (talk) 12:30, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023
[edit]Hello JoJan,
Backlog
Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.
Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.
WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.
Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.
You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.
Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).
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New pages patrol needs your help!
[edit]Hello JoJan,
The New Page Patrol team is sending you this impromptu message to inform you of a steeply rising backlog of articles needing review. If you have any extra time to spare, please consider reviewing one or two articles each day to help lower the backlog. You can start reviewing by visiting Special:NewPagesFeed. Thank you very much for your help.
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Administrators' newsletter – July 2023
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).
- Contributions to the English Wikipedia are now released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License (CC BY-SA 4.0) license instead of CC BY-SA 3.0. Contributions are still also released under the GFDL license.
- Discussion is open regarding a proposed global policy regarding third-party resources. Third-party resources are computer resources that reside outside of Wikimedia production websites.
- Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.
Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Umbonella
[edit]A tag has been placed on Category:Umbonella indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 01:12, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- I've deleted this unnecessary category. JoJan (talk) 13:23, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 57
[edit]The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 57, May – June 2023
- Suggestion improvements
- Favorite collections tips
- Spotlight: Promoting Nigerian Books and Authors
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --11:22, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – August 2023
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).
Interface administrator changes
- The tag filter on Special:NewPages and revision history pages can now be inverted. This allows hiding edits made by automated tools. (T334338)
- Special:BlockedExternalDomains is a new tool that allows easier blocking of plain domains (and their subdomains). This is more easily searchable and is faster for the software to use than the existing MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. It does not support regex (for complex cases), URL path-matching, or the MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. (T337431)
- The arbitration cases named Scottywong and AlisonW closed 10 July and 16 July respectively.
- The SmallCat dispute arbitration case is in the workshop phase.
WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 21
[edit]- August 2023—Issue 021
- Tree of Life
- Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Australiformis by Mattximus |
Ohmdenosaurus by Jens Lallensack |
New contest!
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August DYKs
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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).
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- Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
- A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that
[s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment
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- Special:Contributions now shows the user's local edit count and the account's creation date. (T324166)
- The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming
local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus
. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged tonote when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful
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- Tech tip: The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top of Special:Diff can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.
New page patrol October 2023 Backlog drive
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Books & Bytes – Issue 58
[edit]The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 58, July – August 2023
- New partners - De Standaard and Duncker & Humblot
- Tech tip: Filters
- Wikimania presentation
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --14:27, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
New pages patrol newsletter
[edit]Hello JoJan,
Backlog update: At the time of this message, there are 11,300 articles and 15,600 redirects awaiting review. This is the highest backlog in a long time. Please help out by doing additional reviews!
October backlog elimination drive: A one-month backlog drive for October will start in one week! Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles and redirects patrolled. Articles will earn 4x as many points compared to redirects. You can sign up here.
PageTriage code upgrades: Upgrades to the PageTriage code, initiated by the NPP open letter in 2022 and actioned by the WMF Moderator Tools Team in 2023, are ongoing. More information can be found here. As part of this work, the Special:NewPagesFeed now has a new version in beta! The update leaves the NewPagesFeed appearance and function mostly identical to the old one, but updates the underlying code, making it easier to maintain and helping make sure the extension is not decommissioned due to maintenance issues in the future. You can try out the new Special:NewPagesFeed here - it will replace the current version soon.
Notability tip: Professors can meet WP:PROF #1 by having their academic papers be widely cited by their peers. When reviewing professor articles, it is a good idea to find their Google Scholar or Scopus profile and take a look at their h-index and number of citations. As a very rough rule of thumb, for most fields, articles on people with a h-index of twenty or more, a first-authored paper with more than a thousand citations, or multiple papers each with more than a hundred citations are likely to be kept at AfD.
Reviewing tip: If you would like like a second opinion on your reviews or simply want another new page reviewer by your side when patrolling, we recommend pair reviewing! This is where two reviewers use Discord voice chat and screen sharing to communicate with each other while reviewing the same article simultaneously. This is a great way to learn and transfer knowledge.
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WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 22
[edit]- September 2023—Issue 022
- Tree of Life
- Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
List of cercopithecoids by PresN |
Mountain pigeon by AryKun |
Contest results
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The first edition of our new monthly contest had perhaps a little less participation than I hoped for, but it still resulted in a huge amount of content work, mainly focussed on de-stubbing articles on little-known species, although we did also see two GAs for Holozoa and Hypericum perforatum. Overall, over 60 articles were improved, with most going from stubs or redlinks to fully fleshed out articles. The winner this month was Simongraham, who improved 21 articles about spiders, mainly to B and C class, and racked up 70 points, over twice the next highest. Hopefully, we'll continue to see such great work next month, with even more participants and even more articles improved.
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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2023).
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- An RfC is open regarding amending the paid-contribution disclosure policy to add the following text:
Any administrator soliciting clients for paid Wikipedia-related consulting or advising services not covered by other paid-contribution rules must disclose all clients on their userpage.
- Administrators can now choose to add the user's user page to their watchlist when changing the usergroups for a user. This works both via Special:UserRights and via the API. (T272294)
- The 2023 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of one new CheckUser.
- Self-nominations for the electoral commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections opens on 2 October and closes on 8 October.
File:Genliseaviolacea1web.jpg listed for discussion
[edit]A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Genliseaviolacea1web.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. —Matr1x-101 (Ping me when replying) {user page (@ commons) - talk} 18:02, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
November Articles for creation backlog drive
[edit]Hello JoJan:
WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.
You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.
Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 23
[edit]- October 2023—Issue 023
- Tree of Life
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Mimodactylus by FunkMonk |
Contest results
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The second edition of our monthly contest was even better than the last month, with 80 articles improved spanning the entire tree of life. The winner this month was Quetzal1964, who contributed to 47 articles, mainly relating to marine fish, and racked up 81 points in the process. In second place was simongraham, who got 60 points from 14 articles on various species of jumping spiders. simongraham is still at the top of our overall standings, with 130 points, and Quetzal1964's close behind on 108. The November edition of the contest is now open: feel free to drop by and participate if you work on any TOL-related articles this month. |
October DYKs
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Administrators' newsletter – November 2023
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).
Interface administrator changes
- The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to edit MediaWiki configuration directly. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. A technical RfC is running until November 08, where you can provide feedback.
- There is a proposed plan for re-enabling the Graph Extension. Feedback on this proposal is requested.
- Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
- Xaosflux, RoySmith and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections. BusterD is the reserve commissioner.
- Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
- Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
- Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
- Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
- An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.
- The Articles for Creation backlog drive is happening in November 2023, with 700+ drafts pending reviews for in the last 4 months or so. In addition to the AfC participants, all administrators and New Page Patrollers can conduct reviews using the helper script, Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in the Gadgets settings. Sign up here to participate!
Books & Bytes – Issue 59
[edit]The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 59, September – October 2023
- Spotlight: Introducing a repository of anti-disinformation projects
- Tech tip: Library access methods
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WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 24
[edit]- November 2023—Issue 024
- Tree of Life
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Contest results
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The third edition of our monthly contest saw Quetzal1964 win for the second month in a row, scoring 68 points from 39 articles about a variety of marine fishes. In second place for the month is Olmagon, who scored 45 points from 10 articles on extinct crustaceans and geckoes. In the overall standings, Quetzal1964 leapfrogged over simongraham into first place, with 176 points from 109 articles; simongraham is now in second place with 136 points from 37 articles. The December edition of the contest is now open: feel free to drop by and participate if you work on any TOL-related articles this month. |
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Now, this newsletter is technically not new, but I have only recently become aware of its existence and am only a month late, so it still counts. Wikiproject Fungi's Lichen task force has a new newsletter that is very nicely formatted and also features much better writing than this newsletter. Anyone interested in receiving the newsletter can add their name here. |
November DYKs
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Typo?
[edit]The source for Zonites festae spells it as Zonites festai. Is this a mistake or not? 115.188.140.167 (talk) 08:00, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for noticing this. I've made the necessary changes and deleted Zonites festae. JoJan (talk) 08:55, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – December 2023
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2023).
- Following a talk page discussion, the Administrators' accountability policy has been updated to note that while it is considered best practice for administrators to have notifications (pings) enabled, this is not mandatory. Administrators who do not use notifications are now strongly encouraged to indicate this on their user page.
- Following a motion, the Extended Confirmed Restriction has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
- The Arbitration Committee has announced a call for Checkusers and Oversighters, stating that it will currently be accepting applications for CheckUser and/or Oversight permissions at any point in the year.
- Eligible users are invited to vote on candidates for the Arbitration Committee until 23:59 December 11, 2023 (UTC). Candidate statements can be seen here.
New pages patrol January 2024 Backlog drive
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WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 25
[edit]- December 2023—Issue 025
- Tree of Life
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Snowy plover by Jens Lallensack |
Alpine ibex by LittleJerry |
Contest results
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And so ends the fourth edition of the monthly rolling contest, as well as the 2023 Tree of Life Contest as a whole. This month saw simongraham win with a very impressive 120 points from 27 articles. Quetzal1964 was second with 74 points from 37 articles. The annual contest was a close race between simongraham and Quetzal1964; simongraham won first place with 256 points from 64 articles, and Quetzal1964 was second with 250 points from 146 articles. Snoteleks was third with 79 points from 33 articles. Congratulations to everyone who won this year and my gratitude to everyone else who helped raise the quality of articles in our little corner of Wikipedia this year. Additionally, a very Happy New Year to everyone in the project and here's looking forward to continuing our good work in 2024! |
December DYKs
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Administrators' newsletter – January 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).
- Following the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Aoidh, Cabayi, Firefly, HJ Mitchell, Maxim, Sdrqaz, ToBeFree, Z1720.
- Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
- The arbitration case Industrial agriculture has been closed.
- The New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,000 unreviewed articles awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
Books & Bytes – Issue 60
[edit]The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 60, November – December 2023
- Three new partners
- Google Scholar integration
- How to track partner suggestions
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Administrators' newsletter – February 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).
- An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.
- Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)
- Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
- Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.
- Voting in the 2024 Steward elections will begin on 06 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 27 February 2024, 14:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
- A vote to ratify the charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open till 2 February 2024, 23:59:59 (UTC) via Secure Poll. All eligible voters within the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to either support or oppose the adoption of the U4C Charter and share their reasons. The details of the voting process and voter eligibility can be found here.
- Community Tech has made some preliminary decisions about the future of the Community Wishlist Survey. In summary, they aim to develop a new, continuous intake system for community technical requests that improves prioritization, resource allocation, and communication regarding wishes. Read more
- The Unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in February 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!
Administrators' newsletter – March 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).
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- Phase I of the 2024 RfA review is now open for participation. Editors are invited to review, comment on, and propose improvements to the requests for adminship process.
- Following an RfC, the inactivity requirement for the removal of the interface administrator right increased from 6 months to 12 months.
- The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)
- The 2024 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ*ぜ, AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Doǵu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, MdsShakil, Minorax, Nehaoua, Renvoy and RoySmith as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
- Following the 2024 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Ajraddatz, Albertoleoncio, EPIC, JJMC89, Johannnes89, Melos and Yahya.
WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 26
[edit]- January and February 2024—Issue 026
- Tree of Life
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Horned sungem by Jens Lallensack |
News at a glance |
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Books & Bytes – Issue 61
[edit]The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 61, January – February 2024
- Bristol University Press and British Online Archives now available
- 1Lib1Ref results
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Callostracon and attribution
[edit]Hi JoJan,
Thank you for your edits to Callostracon, where you have copied content from a CC-licensed source into the article, which is allowed.
However, please note that you must always add a relevant notice that the content is copied beyond simply citing it, using a template like {{cc-notice}}; I have fixed it for you in the meantime.
Please see this page for further information. Thank you! – Isochrone (talk) 18:59, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).
- An RfC is open to convert all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure.
- The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)
- An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".
- Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.
New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024
[edit]Hello JoJan,
Backlog update: The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to Schminnte, who led with over 2,300 points.
Following that, New Page Patrol organized another backlog drive for articles in January 2024. The January drive started with 13,650 articles and reduced the backlog to 7,430 articles. Congratulations to JTtheOG, who achieved first place with 1,340 points in this drive.
Looking at the graph, it seems like backlog drives are one of the only things keeping the backlog under control. Another backlog drive is being planned for May. Feel free to participate in the May backlog drive planning discussion.
It's worth noting that both queues are gradually increasing again and are nearing 14,034 articles and 22,540 redirects. We encourage you to keep contributing, even if it's just a single patrol per day. Your support is greatly appreciated!
2023 Awards
Onel5969 won the 2023 cup with 17,761 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 50/day. There was one Platinum Award (10,000+ reviews), 2 Gold Awards (5000+ reviews), 6 Silver (2000+), 8 Bronze (1000+), 30 Iron (360+) and 70 more for the 100+ barnstar. Hey man im josh led on redirect reviews by clearing 36,175 of them. For the full details, see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone for their efforts in reviewing!
WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers deployed the rewritten NewPagesFeed in October, and then gave the NewPagesFeed a slight visual facelift in November. This concludes most major work to Special:NewPagesFeed, and most major work by the WMF Moderator Tools team, who wrapped up their major work on PageTriage in October. The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers will continue small work on PageTriage as time permits.
Recruitment: A couple of the coordinators have been inviting editors to become reviewers, via mass-messages to their talk pages. If you know someone who you'd think would make a good reviewer, then a personal invitation to them would be great. Additionally, if there are Wikiprojects that you are active on, then you can add a post there asking participants to join NPP. Please be careful not to double invite folks that have already been invited.
Reviewing tip: Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages within their most familiar subjects can use the regularly updated NPP Browser tool.
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how to ban link?
[edit]i want try to ban this link https://www.surahyaseenpdf.info/
do you know how to ban this link from wikipedia? or marking as spam and not to be add as reff?
https://www.surahyaseenpdf.info/ Parjiano (talk) 15:56, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Can you give me some more information ? As far as I can understand, you are referring to the article Ya-Sin and the edit contest between two users. In this case you better bring this to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents and explain your reasons. JoJan (talk) 12:52, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Happy First Edit Day!
[edit]Happy First Edit Day! Hi JoJan! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you made your first edit and became a Wikipedian! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:23, 9 April 2024 (UTC) |
Invitation to join the Twenty Year Society
[edit]Dear JoJan,
I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Twenty Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for twenty years or more.
Best regards, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:25, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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New page patrol May 2024 Backlog drive
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Books & Bytes – Issue 62
[edit]The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 62, March – April 2024
- IEEE and Haaretz now available
- Let's Connect Clinics about The Wikipedia Library
- Spotlight and Wikipedia Library tips
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Administrators' newsletter – May 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).
- Phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship review has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including creating a discussion-only period (3b) and administrator elections (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as creating a reminder of civility norms (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the full report.
- Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531
- The arbitration case Conflict of interest management has been closed.
- This may be a good time to reach out to potential nominees to ask if they would consider an RfA.
- A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in May 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 15,000 articles awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
- Voting for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) election is open until 9 May 2024. Read the voting page on Meta-Wiki and cast your vote here!
WikiProject Tree of Life Newsletter Issue 27
[edit]- March and April 2024—Issue 027
- Tree of Life
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Request in new articles
[edit]Hi @JoJan, I have been following up on new species articles. I have been noticing a trend in your new articles. Often there is an empty external links section, see these edits here and here. Is there a reason for this section?
Additionally, I have noticed that occasionally geographic categories are missing from your articles, see here and here. I have been adding them for a few days now, would it be possible for you to incorporate this in your article drafting process? Cheers, --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 01:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have been removing those empty sections. I've also been making a series of edits that seem to be common to all of your new articles, JoJan. Please take a look at your recent new articles that I have edited and pick up these changes for future articles. Thanks! - UtherSRG (talk) 15:20, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- You're asking for more citations and more footnotes, while that's all there is for these obscure species. JoJan (talk) 16:12, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- My changes are more than that. Don't add {{taxonbar}} if there is no Wikidata item; or make the Wikidata item. Use {{BioRef}} instead of a raw URL ref. Add the appropriate stub tag. Etc. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- And yes, ensure all assertions are sourced to a reference. There are plenty of articles you've made where you've asserted a piece of information, but have not indicated where that information comes from. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:24, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- You're asking for more citations and more footnotes, while that's all there is for these obscure species. JoJan (talk) 16:12, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Following up, I have noticed that categories have improved. Thank you! Congrats on making it out of Aegista and beyond.
- Some other notes:
- You occasionally miss adding periods in your distribution sections.
- Some sections you create lack citations. I know that it is likely to be found in the very few sources that are listed, but it would be good to get those citations inline.
- If possible/available could you Wikilink the authority name in the infobox? It could be useful to readers.
- As a very experienced editor, I am sure you know there are many valid ways to format references. Is there a reason you avoid citation templates? Using {{Cite taxon}}, {{Cite book}}, {{Cite web}}, {{Cite journal}}, etc. could be helpful towards standardising the information.
- I am sure @UtherSRG has some thoughts on this front.
- This must be hard work, thanks for taking it on. So many snails! Sincerely, --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 22:02, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Nope, you said it all, Classicwiki. @JoJan: I know you can do better. Your reticence to improve is disappointing. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:02, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- I understand you remarks. I'm working in this project pretty much alone, and I thank the occasional collaborators. I'm already of an advanced age and I hope I still have some time left. Furthermore the time I can spend on my computer is limited, but I do what I can. Following all your remarks - justified as they are - would slow me down considerably. There are just so many templates and categories - this is not a piece of cake. Already I have to invest so much time in research for text in public domain and for images (photos or original drawings) in lots of museums and dedicated websites. If I have to follow all your recommendations, this would slow down the creation of new articles or the much needed expansion of already existing stubs. If just we had more collaborators.... JoJan (talk) 09:27, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- That's no excuse. Have a scrap book where you have all of the basics ready to just drop in the data. Or have a baseline article that has all of what we are talking about already implemented and use that as a reminder of what to do. There are ways of making it easier. You don't have to remember it all and type it from scratch. Do better. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:57, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- I understand you remarks. I'm working in this project pretty much alone, and I thank the occasional collaborators. I'm already of an advanced age and I hope I still have some time left. Furthermore the time I can spend on my computer is limited, but I do what I can. Following all your remarks - justified as they are - would slow me down considerably. There are just so many templates and categories - this is not a piece of cake. Already I have to invest so much time in research for text in public domain and for images (photos or original drawings) in lots of museums and dedicated websites. If I have to follow all your recommendations, this would slow down the creation of new articles or the much needed expansion of already existing stubs. If just we had more collaborators.... JoJan (talk) 09:27, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Nope, you said it all, Classicwiki. @JoJan: I know you can do better. Your reticence to improve is disappointing. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:02, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
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- I get what you are saying @JoJan. I agree that this is a tough undertaking and the research you are doing to prepare these articles must be arduous to comb through. It is amazing that you supply so many images to your articles.
- You are not totally alone. As you can see we are trying to improve the articles, but usually they are routine edits that if incorporated into your drafting process, would require less maintenance work from us. However, there is only so much I can do when I see an unsourced statement. I do not have the expertise or the time (or access) to read every book/reference you incorporate into your articles.
- On the collaboration front, how is WikiProject Gastropods going? Have you tried writing on the article Talk page and tagging new users in seeking help? You might be able to rustle up some new recruits by posting on WikiProject Tree of Life and related forums. WP:TEAMWORK has some ideas as well. Shake the tree and see what falls out.
- Have you experimented with the new ref tools in the Wikipedia editing modules or over at Help:Citation tools lately? You might be surprised about how quick some of these tools can be. Of course, nothing is perfect and some adjustments will need to be made to the title or authors often, but if you already have that info, it can be pretty quick. Additionally, the Insert Template Wizard can be copy-paste. If it is a frequent source, consider making a master template in a userspace and adjusting the page numbers as necessary.
- If that is not in cards, you might find a partner, by requesting help at WikiProject Reliability or WikiProject Citation cleanup.
- As another user mentioned on your talk page a year or so ago, links break, and having untemplated citations make it difficult to archive. One way to look at this, is that you are setting up future malacologist and malacology-enthusiasts up for better success (and an easier time) in their curiosity and research endeavours if your referencing is parsable and inline. What is that old Greek(?) or Japenese(?) saying about planting trees so that future generations may enjoy the shade?
- Tree platitudes aside, you are very experienced and may have considered/know all this. Again, thank you for your hard work and I look forward to the next gastro article. Wishing you good health, --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 02:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your kind words and especially for the useful tips you provided. I must admit I hadn't noticed the "Cite" button in the toolbar before. It's incredibly handy, and I've already used it several times. Regarding finding new recruits, I've sent many invitations over the years. Occasionally, some individuals have started editing, but they often didn't continue. This is understandable, as contributing requires not only a good understanding of gastropod taxonomy but also a thorough knowledge of how to write on Wikipedia, with all its rules, templates, and categories. JoJan (talk) 09:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2024).
- Phase II of the 2024 RfA review has commenced to improve and refine the proposals passed in Phase I.
- The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. T43351
- The arbitration case Venezuelan politics has been closed.
- The Committee is seeking volunteers for various roles, including access to the conflict of interest VRT queue.
- WikiProject Reliability's unsourced statements drive is happening in June 2024 to replace {{citation needed}} tags with references! Sign up here to participate!
Happy Adminship Anniversary!
[edit]Happy adminship anniversary! Hi JoJan! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of your successful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 12:54, 25 June 2024 (UTC) |
Administrators' newsletter – July 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2024).
- Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript. Documentation is available on MediaWiki. (T6086)
- The Community Wishlist is re-opening on 15 July 2024. Read more
Books & Bytes – Issue 63
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Issue 63, May – June 2024
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Administrators' newsletter – August 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2024).
- Global blocks may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may locally unblock when appropriate.
- Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.
- The Arbitration Committee appointed the following administrators to the conflict of interest volunteer response team: Bilby, Extraordinary Writ
Accidental 1 week block instead of an indef for a VOA
[edit]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/RaccaWurst This user should be blocked indefinitely, not for 1 week. Jdcomix (talk) 14:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Done JoJan (talk) 14:05, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – September 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2024).
- Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which
applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past
. - A request for comment is open to discuss whether Notability (species) should be adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
- Following a motion, remedies 5.1 and 5.2 of World War II and the history of Jews in Poland (the topic and interaction bans on My very best wishes, respectively) were repealed.
- Remedy 3C of the German war effort case ("Cinderella157 German history topic ban") was suspended for a period of six months.
- The arbitration case Historical Elections is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.
- Editors can now enter into good article review circles, an alternative for informal quid pro quo arrangements, to have a GAN reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
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Books & Bytes – Issue 64
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Issue 64, July – August 2024
- The Hindu Group joins The Wikipedia Library
- Wikimania presentation
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Dymares
[edit]A tag has been placed on Category:Dymares indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. ✗plicit 12:37, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've deleted this unnecessary category. JoJan (talk) 13:44, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
A horrable fire
[edit]ln 2024 there was a horrable fire in our place.lt was about two(14:00-15:00)when that happen.our parents were not around by that time. We had to protect the herns so so as our previous car not to burn. Some herns has burn.
That fire was made by three man who looked after the cows. They were smoking when the fire burn the bushes after that they run away. No one has been founded by now to be questioned.
41.113.162.198 (talk) 15:51, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
Wikidata
[edit]Hi. First of all, I'd like to congratulate you on your work on creating articles for lots of animal species. I'd want to let you know about Wikidata. Amongst many other things, it allows to link articles and categories and pages from Wikipedias in lots of languages and other projects within the scope of Wikimedia. If you do nothing about the new articles you create, a bot will eventually come and link them automatically. It's no big deal. However, there are already items on Wikidata for these species, some of them even with images. Linking the article you've recently created will allow to have links to that other version of Wikipedia and also to images in Wikimedia Commons if available. It's very simple. You can see here an example of how I did it with Navarriella, which is now linked there. Do not hesitate to contact me if you require further assistance or you have any doubts - I'll be happy to help. :) And keep up the good work. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 07:59, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your kind words. But I cannot create a new item in Wikidata. My screen only shows "read" and "view history". Therefore I leave this to a bot. My hands are already full with the creation and expansion of articles in en.wikipedia and uploading new images to the Commons and keep the Commons up-to-date with all the changes in taxonomy. JoJan (talk) 08:24, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- That's great. Keep up the excellent work! :) Alavense (talk) 09:06, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
Hello, JoJan,
Please do not delete categories that are being discussed at WP:CFD. They are immune from CSD C1 tagging. And if you come across an empty category, that is not being discussed at CFD, please do not delete it but tag it CSD C1. This is made easier if you use Twinkle to tag pages. Empty categories are not immediately deleted, they sit for 7 days at Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion in case they have been emptied out-of-process. Liz Read! Talk! 02:46, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Also, this CFD wasn't a proposal to delete a category but to rename it so it shouldn't have been deleted. Liz Read! Talk! 02:50, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – October 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2024).
- Administrator elections are a proposed new process for selecting administrators, offering an alternative to requests for adminship (RfA). The first trial election will take place in October 2024, with candidate sign-up from October 8 to 14, a discussion phase from October 22 to 24, and SecurePoll voting from October 25 to 31. For questions or to help out, please visit the talk page at Wikipedia talk:Administrator elections.
- Following a discussion, the speedy deletion reason "File pages without a corresponding file" has been moved from criterion G8 to F2. This does not change what can be speedily deleted.
- A request for comment is open to discuss whether there is a consensus to have an administrator recall process.
- The arbitration case Historical elections has been closed.
- An arbitration case regarding Backlash to diversity and inclusion has been opened.
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Requesting some article expansion help
[edit]Greetings @JoJan
Hi, I am User:Bookku, On Wikipedia I engage in, finding information and knowledge gap areas in Wikipedia and promoting expansion of related drafts and articles. Previously you seem to have attempted to update article Hagia Sophia. ((xtools))
Requesting your visit to Draft:Re-mosqueing of Hagia Sophia and help expand, if you find topic interesting.
Wish you very happy Wikipedia editing. Thanks and warm regards Bookku (talk) 04:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Correction needed please
[edit]Hi JoJan. You have been listing this source as Public Domain, but this page shows that that's incorrect. It's acutally CC-by-SA 4.0. So the correct template to add is this one:
{{Creative Commons text attribution notice|cc=bysa4|from this source=yes}}
Please use this instead of {{PD-notice}}
or {{source-attribution}}
when copying from this source. Thanks! -- Diannaa (talk) 18:11, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for bringing this to my attention. JoJan (talk) 07:29, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Following a request for comment, Administrator recall is adopted as a policy.
- Mass deletions done with the Nuke tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. T366068
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Books & Bytes – Issue 65
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Issue 65, September – October 2024
- Hindu Tamil Thisai joins The Wikipedia Library
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Ways to improve Conus demisgeraldoi
[edit]Hello, JoJan,
Thank you for creating Conus demisgeraldoi.
I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:
Hey there, the World Register of Marine Species seems to have deleted the entry on this species. Please replace the citation with something more reliable and still live. Let me know if you have any questions! (please mention me on reply; thanks!)
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—TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Deleted JoJan (talk) 16:26, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Ways to improve Conus cazalisoi
[edit]Hello, JoJan,
Thank you for creating Conus cazalisoi.
I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:
This article also has no usable references. Please replace it with a valid citation that verifies the existence of this species.
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—TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:00, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Deleted. JoJan (talk) 16:27, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JoJan, I don't believe G6 is the appropriate deletion in this case, which is why I think @Explicit initially reverted the deletion of this and the article mentioned above. It's unclear to me whether this is supposedly viewed as a hoax (which would be G3), or whether the species has been re-named, or what, but articles should not typically be G6 deleted after existing for 6 years as "Housekeeping and routine (non-controversial) cleanup: not-accepted name". Hey man im josh (talk) 17:12, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Chiming in to agree, although arguably G7 would be reasonable, but again it's been six years so I think maybe some discussion would be beneficial. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 18:13, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- To me it sounds like a move / merge / redirect might be best. I'm no species expert, but if there were previously entries in the relevant taxon databases, it should signify something. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:14, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- I concur. This should not have been deleted. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:41, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh, Amorymeltzer, and UtherSRG: Not only is the application of G6 entirely wrong, re-deleting the pages after my clear opposition to them is in violation of WP:WHEEL. Having a look into their deletion log, and looking at examples like Schwartziella scalariformis and Thais cingulifera, it seems that JoJan has been misapplying G6 for years. Their RFA was nearly twenty years ago, so they may be quite out of touch with current practices. ✗plicit 23:34, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've now restored the page. - UtherSRG (talk) 01:56, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- You're not wrong, but I do think this could have been said in a less bitey way. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:21, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh, Amorymeltzer, and UtherSRG: Not only is the application of G6 entirely wrong, re-deleting the pages after my clear opposition to them is in violation of WP:WHEEL. Having a look into their deletion log, and looking at examples like Schwartziella scalariformis and Thais cingulifera, it seems that JoJan has been misapplying G6 for years. Their RFA was nearly twenty years ago, so they may be quite out of touch with current practices. ✗plicit 23:34, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- I concur. This should not have been deleted. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:41, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- To me it sounds like a move / merge / redirect might be best. I'm no species expert, but if there were previously entries in the relevant taxon databases, it should signify something. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:14, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Chiming in to agree, although arguably G7 would be reasonable, but again it's been six years so I think maybe some discussion would be beneficial. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 18:13, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JoJan, I don't believe G6 is the appropriate deletion in this case, which is why I think @Explicit initially reverted the deletion of this and the article mentioned above. It's unclear to me whether this is supposedly viewed as a hoax (which would be G3), or whether the species has been re-named, or what, but articles should not typically be G6 deleted after existing for 6 years as "Housekeeping and routine (non-controversial) cleanup: not-accepted name". Hey man im josh (talk) 17:12, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- It is still my opinion this article should be deleted, as Conus cazalisoi is now recognized as an unused combination, It was created by me in 2018 relying on WoRMS. In 2019 in the publication "Illustrated Catalog of the Living Cone Shells - 2018 update supplement" [1] it was stated that the original name was Africonus cazalisoi. This is, in turn, was recognized as a synonym of Conus (Kalloconus) trochulus Reeve, 1844, represented as Conus trochulus Reeve, 1844. This is how taxonomy works. The designation Conus cazalisoi was not a hoax. And merging or redirecting something that does not exist, is certainly wrong. One can discuss the reason for deleting, but in my opinion G6 or G7 seem appropriate. Therefore, if no one objects, I will delete this page again. JoJan (talk) 13:23, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- That's fine and all, but that's not what G6 deletions are for. Neither G6 (non-controversial maintenance) or G7 (borderline in this case) seem appropriate. If you don't believe an article that was not solely edited by you no longer belongs on Wikipedia, we send it to AfD, even if only procedural. We typically don't just delete 6 year old articles like this. Please keep that in mind in the future, even though I'm confident your intentions were good and you were trying to save us from some bureaucracy. For all we know someone will come along and point us to a place where a redirect would make more sense or they shed some light that another person was not aware of. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:29, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- Alright folks, I know admin accountability is a thing, but I believe the efforts made were in good faith, and I think we should be approaching it as such. Let's give someone a chance to do better :) Hey man im josh (talk) 03:07, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- And as an admin, you are held to a higher standard of behavior. Abusing your admin bit in this way could be cause to having your bit removed. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:04, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- As I have already expressed, I oppose your misapplication of the speedy deletion criteria. WP:PROD would be the way to go about it. ✗plicit 00:14, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- That's fine and all, but that's not what G6 deletions are for. Neither G6 (non-controversial maintenance) or G7 (borderline in this case) seem appropriate. If you don't believe an article that was not solely edited by you no longer belongs on Wikipedia, we send it to AfD, even if only procedural. We typically don't just delete 6 year old articles like this. Please keep that in mind in the future, even though I'm confident your intentions were good and you were trying to save us from some bureaucracy. For all we know someone will come along and point us to a place where a redirect would make more sense or they shed some light that another person was not aware of. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:29, 27 November 2024 (UTC)