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save mixtape messiah 4 article from deletion

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this article of mixtape messaih 4 has been deleted by someone clearly not qualified to evaluate anything involving hip-hop and the inclusion of mixtape messiah 4 needs support.Xx1994xx (talk)

Publicist

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This is Chamillionaire's publicist. Please remove: Chamillionaire will begin promoting his new custom "Color Changing Kicks" shoe line. He is not launching a shoe line. Completely false. Also, please remove any reference to Bill Collecta being the official second single. Not true. Thanks.

Publicist: If your still here Clothing Line: When and Where? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.99.2.128 (talk) 03:57, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Headline text

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There's no mention of the mixtapes Tippin Down 2005 nor Big Business with Stat Quo here.. could someone add em?56 16 Jun 2006 (UTC)

This was unbelievably easy to Wikify as an original article. Is there any more information about Universal Records and Swishahouse etc. for input?--McDogm 20:45, 28 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Authenticity check: A search reveals that the phrase "regarded by many" appears in the text. Is the phrase a symptom of a dubious statement? Could a source be quoted instead? Perhaps the "many" could be identified? Might text be edited to more genuinely reflect specific facts?

Chamillionaire is Muslim

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He is a Muslim so I think it should be on his page if you read his bio it says that "Growing up as a child of four in a strict household run by a Christian mother and a Muslim father, he was not allowed to curse". And he also says in interviews that he don't drink or smoke and Muslims aren't allowed to drink or smoke. He also never wears a cross so that shows you guys. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.41.184.116 (talk) 20:18, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So...everyone who doesnt curse, smoke, and drink is a muslim? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.87.55.195 (talk) 20:19, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chamillionaire's Birthplace

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Just curious... Where was Chamillionaire born? this seems like a disputed issue.. Was he born in Houston, TX or another part of Texas or was he born in Washington DC? Some people claim he was born in Wisconsin... Hmmmm...

Edit by me xP: He was born in Washington!!! Really. In a rare verse he says: "Washington DC gave me birth, but Houston gave me milk from the breast".

Association with Motown Records

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According to the Motown Records article on Wikipedia, Chamillionaire was signed with them too. Understandably, Universal owns Motown, but it would be nice to get some firmer information to the labels he has been signed with. Guroadrunner 04:28, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article problems

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None of the trivia is cited, and the article sounds very biased. Is the statement "He is known for his ability to change the tempo and rhyme scheme of his rapping within a single song, and for the rapid, clear, and distinct quality of his delivery and voice" really true? clear voice? listen to "Ridin" and try to identify the lyrics... I would like to see some reference to sources that give this artist that much praise (or any references at all, for that matter, considering the article uses direct quotes that are not attributed to anyone)

I have no problem identifying his lyrics Vickfan 22:43, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Major Releases

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Is there a reason why The Sound of Revenge is broken up into a Major Releases sub-heading? It seems to break up the flow of the Discography. I think that the note of Platinum is enough to denote its popular appeal. I would not be opposed to dividing it up into Mixtapes and Albums, but then would Screwed and Chopped be considered an album? --Heaven's Wrath (Talk) 02:44, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Religion

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I just want to inform people who keep changing the article that he is a Muslim, he is not a Muslim he is a Christian. He even says it when he was doing an interview with AllHipHop.com you check it out here Bazel 04:16, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.allhiphop.com/features/index.asp?ID=1179

Fixed

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The albums chronology, a lot of infoboxes and information where messed up. All fixed now.

Also, was "Man On Fire" released on 2006 or 2005? I decided to put it on 2006 because it had a date (June 10). Change it if it's not correct.

Michaelas10 12:25, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed it again. We can't go on like this forever, please verify the discography and possibly merge the album chronology and mixtape chronology. Michaelas10 09:54, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another mixtape (or album) not mentioned

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There is no mention of the mixtape/album "Houston, We have a problem" I have never heard it myself, but allmusic.com has a review for it with samples from the album.

Maybe could mention that "Controversy Sells" also sold a lot, in the section with "Get ya mind correct" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.247.164.180 (talk) 19:54, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarism

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90% of the "Early Career" section has been plagiarised from numerous Chamillionaire biographies written by music websites. So, it's gone pending rewrite. I know it leaves a huge hole, but laziness is no excuse for copying and pasting. The Chief 10:31, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

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Keep an eye out for heavy vandalism for a little bit (and edit warring) by message board users. Vandalizing edits will generally include unexpected references to heavy nerd culture, like Pokémon. --GlitchBob dbug 20:54, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of box addressing article problems

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User:FAH1223 removed this: {{Mustard|July 2006|Format|NPOV|Refs|Disco}} from the page, but none of the problems have been fixed, so it should be added back in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.84.16.32 (talkcontribs) August 9, 2006

Please provide some evidence of problems; also please sign your posts. Just zis Guy you know? 11:38, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Family

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Chamillionaire's brother Rasaq Seriki is coming up in the rap buisness. You should look for Chamillionaire's single with Rasaq and Lil Wayne called "Fly as the Sky."

Mainstream Albums Box

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I added the Mainstream Albums section and entered info into there. However, can someone make the table so it expands fully to the right like it is in Jay-Z's Wikipedia entry? Also, someone could also do the underground albums table/section.

Omershahab 15:38, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

his heritage has been taken off the article. His dad is a nigerian from oyo state , Nigeria.

Are we going to make a Award thing for Cham?

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I don't know how to... Besides he got nominated more than 5 times!! ~Sassychick1898

I'll make one for him, just tell me all the categories he was nominated for and won. Georgia Bird 21:21, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BET's Hip Hop Awards 2006: (All Nominated)

           Hip Hop Track of the Year – "Ridin"
           Rookie of the Year
           Hip Hop MVP
           Best Collaboration – "Ridin'"
           Viewer's Choice (Wireless People's Champ

American Music Awards(AMA) 2006: (All Nominated)

           Favorite Breakthrough Artist

mtvU Woodie Awards 2006 (All Nominated:

           The Breaking Woodie" – (Best Emerging Artist)

MTV Video Music Awards (VMA) (Won):

           Best Rap Video - "Ridin"

BET Awards 2006 (Nominated):

           Best New Artist

That's all I remember... ~Sassychick1898

Thanks mami..when he gets more nominations, i'll make him his own page to end the clutter. Georgia Bird 04:07, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

lol...This isn't the kind of awards and nominations things other people get.. How do they do that? ~Sassychick1898

I was going to put them on a separate page after he gets more nominations, for now it's fine the way they're at. There's a tutorial on how to create pages. Georgia Peachez 22:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But it isn't there a kinda like a chart or somethibng for awards and nominations?--Sassychick1898 17:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I did one Bazel 01:49, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Georgia Peachez 23:54, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

King Koopa?

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Doesn't Nintendo have that name trademarked? What gives Chamillionaire the right to use it? --Damian Yerrick () 03:37, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since he doesn't use it as an offical nickname/stagename, there probably is no issue with trademark rights. --Ted87 20:47, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mixtape Messiah 2

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He is making Mixtape Messiah 2 and is releasing it on his website chamillionaire.com for free on christmas eve I think. ~wiwoods~

Chamillionire went Double Platinum?

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Where does it stat on the internet that The Sound Of Revenge went 2x Platinum. His website nor his Myspace stats it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.240.163.42 (talk) 23:59, 16 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

WE NEED A PICTURE

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we really need a picture for Chamillionaire Bazel 20:50, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i posted a picture i took at a park of him and someone said it was against copyright rules or soemthing

Time For a Clean Up!

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This article is too long and looks disorganized. I'd clean it myself but I don't know much about Chamillionaire. Jam

But you're looking at a biography about him... If you read, you'll know..

White and Nerdy

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Someone should post information about the White and Nerdy song parodying White and Nerdy and how Chamillionaire said he liked it and Weird Al rapped well. I don't know enough of the story so I can't post it. -Mike Payne 03:35, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They did include something about White and Nerdy one of his greatest honors of all. I don't we should add a section for that particular song..Sassychick1898 05:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

April 24 or June 5 Maybe even sept 18

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There is no source I found that says Cham changed the release date for Ultimate Victory to June %th, his myspace has no blog that indicates this you idiot~Unsigned

yes there is go to his myspace page to his blog called.... I Just Dont Understand/ The Mind...go to the bottom he says "FYI............ "Ultimate Victory" got pushed back till june......trust me its a good thing..... I still havent turned in the album credits yet.... I was gettin worked too hard...almost overloaded" so dont talk mess when you dont know what you are talking about~Unsigned

HE DID POST IT ON HIS MYSPACE!!!! June 5th, I was waitin for march 27 now June, it has to be good, if hes buliding the suspense!~Unsigned

This article should mention Chamillionaire's decision to not use the N-word, the B-word and the H-word in his upcoming album, "Ultimate Victory".Fclass 17:05, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

on chams new blog he states he is pushing the album back as far as sept 18

Controversy

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What the heck does this mean?

Recently, Chamillionaire says that he hates beef, especially after the release of Hip Hop Is Dead, and the appearance of what looks like an East Coast Vs. South conflict, and has blamed Corporate America instead, for the downfall of hip hop. He has asked all fans to forget the hip hop beefs, even his own. This is clear on the "Hip Hop is Dead (Skit)" on his recent mixtape, Mixtape Messiah pt. 2

He doesn't like meat products made from cow? Or is this a slang term? The wording here is strange and confusing to me. Also, it is a terrible run-on sentence. Hyperform 06:27, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It means that Cham don't like people beefing... especially about the conflict with who's killing hip hop, the South or the East Coast. But on Mixtape Messiah pt. 2, he blamed Corporate America for the killing of Hip Hop.

That doesn't explain what "beefing" is. Holding a grudge? Having a row? The context seems to be displacing blame onto other people? Hyperform 05:46, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just go here beef Bazel 20:58, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

picture

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damn, can somebody please get a picture Bazel 04:42, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

50 Cent Problem?

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In a recent interview 50 cent has said, "dislikeful" words towards Chamillionaire (along with Ghostface and Master P) when he heard that they claimed they would not curse in future records (I have heard nothing about that) http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.5465/title.50-cent-takes-aim-at-chamillionaire-master-p-ghostface

Cham has stated many times recently that any and all beefs are settled and he's "Put all that nonsense behind me" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.118.20.84 (talk) 11:02, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clothing Line

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When is it coming out? where can you buy it? Secondandonly 04:50, 18 July 2007 (UTC)secondamd only[reply]

How

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How is he saying that he hates beefs is contreversial?

Sabotage

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Early career paragraph has sabotage in the first line. Madskile 23:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Marriage and shoe-line

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Hi, due to an OTRS complaint I have removed the information about Chamillionaire's recent marriage and his shoe-line, as these are apparently false. His publicist contacted us regarding this. ~ Riana 11:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chamillionaire's singles

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His singles section is wrong now. Bill Collecta has been scrapped as a second single for Ultimate Victory. Chamillionaire confirmed himself that Industry Groupie is his second single on his Myspace blog.

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There could be a copyright problem here. The Early career section sounds copy pasted. A Google search turns up some possible concerns. --S.dedalus (talk) 04:51, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

that article came after the one on wikipedia, they took it from wikipedia Bazel (talk) 23:14, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why is he listed as an African American?

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He is a Nigerian American and this should be made clear, as recent African immigrants and their descendants are culturally very different from the descendants of the Africans brought as slaves during the slave trade. The two shouldn't be lumped together as they are different groups. 86.129.92.149 (talk) 13:33, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I've now removed him from all African American categories. ElijahTM (talk) 09:27, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

JBsupreme, why did you put him back in the categories? As has been mentioned, he is not a member of the African American ethnic group. ElijahTM (talk) 15:45, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And where is Nigeria located, Europe? Read West Africa, and know where Nigeria is. Since he was born and raised in the U.S. of African parents, it therefore makes him African-American. Period. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 05:32, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Nigeria is part of Africa. While recent immigrants from Africa are different than those that immigrated earlier, it doesn't change the fact that his ancestors are from the same continent. My lineage is similar to this example (though not of Africa). 98.198.83.12 (talk) 01:41, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Photo caption

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[Mosmof Mods to this page] Can't see what this user seems to have that may appear to be growing personal against 5W Public Relations, yet her edit war and then making mods to links and captions that have been on Wiki for quite some time are beginning to look like a trend. I'd recommend that thius user halt for a while and tread carefully. PalinforVeep (talk) 13:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have a problem with Mosmof's edit. The photo captions seemed needlessly promotional. — Satori Son 13:16, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Less about the edit and more as the stalking nature of the user... editors and admins here should look at objectivity. What's needless about stating where the picture took place. There are many captions that do that on Wiki in every language. PalinforVeep (talk) 13:22, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Since you say it's "Less about the edit and more" about the user, your comment here is misplaced. This page is primarily for discussing the article and edits to the article. If you think you have a legitimate gripe about an individual editor violating Wikipedia guidelines, please take it to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, which is a noticeboard where site administrators will review, discuss, and take action if appropriate. Thanks. — Satori Son 14:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mixtape discography

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I think his mixtapes should be added to the discography, each mixtape in the Messiah series has its own page and should be made more easily accessible. 76.6.90.16 (talk) 19:22, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ready 2 Go album

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Is there any proof of this album happening any time soon? If anyone has information about this album then please mention it on the article or start a "Ready 2 Go" article it has just been sitting there in the discography blank.76.101.122.31 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 03:30, 27 September 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Third Album

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I have gotten news that the new album is entitled "Massive Conquer" Release date is December 23th, 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Apawk (talkcontribs) 13:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

vandalism

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someone delete that 'personal life' section saying 'He likes to ride it dirty.' as the reference is a link to a DISGUSTING site which I unfortunately clicked on... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.57.184.228 (talk) 00:35, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I just fixed it. --Sebastien. (talk) 15:58, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Birthplace

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Sorry to come back to this, but I just noted this page. Got to it from a page re Nigeria, which listed him as as from West Nigeria. Now, I agree that he was born in the U.S.A. but Houston? or Washington DC? Earlier on this talk page, it 'seems' the question is answered, with reference to a video. Maybe good source, but.... My usual source of uncontested information is IMDB which indicates Houston as his birthplace. Can good solid reference be found for the fact? --67.142.161.24 (talk) 16:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

personal life

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please add this...


Chamillionaire was chosen to Co-Grand Marshal the fifteenth annual Martin Luther King Jr. Grande Parade in his hometown of Houston, Texas this is the first time such an honor have been given to a Hip Hop artist —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miszxxjulie (talkcontribs) 03:36, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mixtape Messiah (the first one) & Mike Jones diss

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There was a very thorough feature article in the Houston Press about the rise and fall of Mike Jones. It says about Jones:

"He'd hit unexpected turbulence at the height of his underground success, in the form of Chamillionaire's The Mixtape Messiah in early 2005. The album's three discs were almost entirely devoted to intricate and specific take-downs of Jones — for, among other things, lying about his past, his dealings with Magno and his outlandish shit-talking and braggadocio, extreme even for a rapper, which quite possibly ignited the feud."

I know very little about Chamillionaire but the omission of his 2005 Mixtape Messiah album seems to be an oversight. Does it merit a mention, along with his feud with Mike Jones? Here is a source: http://www.houstonpress.com/2009-07-23/music/mike-jones-who/5. Greenth (talk) 16:05, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Philanthropist?

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I notice that the lead refers to Chamillionaire as a philanthropist, but there is no mention of philanthropy in the body of the article. One of these two things should change so that they match up. -Chunky Rice (talk) 22:05, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Feud with Paul Wall

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The former feud with former associate Paul Wall, is omitted but needs to be included, as it was monumental in shaping his solo career and is what allowed Chamillionaire to have a distinct solo career from his other Houston affiliates. TheHappiestCritic (talk) 18:54, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Broke?

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Didn't the bank foreclose on his house? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.239.65.193 (talk) 05:39, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The dude was just found murdered in a hotel. Can someone who doesn't suck at editing wiki pages put that information in there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.35.248.73 (talk) 20:04, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures

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What's wrong with the images? Why aren't they being displayed correctly? TwinTurbo (talk) 20:53, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Jones section

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[1] Facebook posts and "answers.yahoo.com" are not appropriate sources. --NeilN talk to me 01:51, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Incidence with Michael Jordan?

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A month or two back was a writeup on here about his negative experience with Michael Jordan. What happened to it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.70.28.214 (talk) 00:44, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See the section above this. --NeilN talk to me 01:21, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That above section is about Mike Jones. What is the reasoning for taking away the Michael Jordan story? A YouTube video from Chamillionaire himself is not a valid source? --Strongsauce (talk) 08:33, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, I believed that to be a good source and it was written in a neutral point of view but I still don't understand why it was removed. TwinTurbo (talk) 09:04, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Edit war

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@Gout Garb: quit it now. This is no game. You already lost. Kaseng55 (talk) 21:40, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 17 January 2023

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Would like to change the section of him joining Upfront an "honor" It isn't an honor to join a VC firm necessarily. 104.153.228.224 (talk) 05:12, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Note: I've removed those few sentences entirely, as they were written in an overly positive light, violating WP:TONE. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 20:20, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chamillionaire.com

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Removed spam redirect to app download Convoz-- *commercial* website. WurmWoodeT 10:05, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]